In this fortnight’s episode, Gyles and Aphra Brandreth meet Nkateko Masinga, an award-winning South African writer and performance poet. Together they explore the influences from her early childhood and how she has interwoven her work and study of medicine with her poetry. She is intrigued by the stories of individuals who exist at the margins of society and considers herself a 'dangerous woman'. Discussing her current work which explores the complex and often tumultuous relationships that daughters have with their mothers. 

Poems this episode include: Seven Lessons on Phosphorescence; Heritage; and self-portrait in utopia, all by Nkateko Masinga.